FORTEAN TIMES UNCONVENTION 1996
9. THE GUERRERO-EL INDIO CRASH (Dennis Stacy, MUFON)
USA: The MJ-12 Document had written on it “TOP SECRET, MAJIC EYES ONLY”. It was supposedly
a memo from the outgoing Truman administration to the incoming Eisenhower admin. Dated 24th
September 1947, MJ-12 were supposed to be twelve mem under the executive order of Truman.
[Hillenkoetter, Forrestal, Twining, Bronk, Donaldmensel (a UFO debunker), Hunsaker etc.]
The paper mentioned the Roswell crash. “Four human-like beings... fallen to Earth... dead.”
The MJ-12 eight pages were sent (in 1986?) to a Hollywood director on 35mm film. The document was
going to be released by someone else (UFO researcher Timothy Good) in 1987 so the director released his
copy.
There is a second object (i.e. recovered UFO) mentioned in the document. El Indio, sixth of December
1950.
[El Indio/Guerrero was not highlighted in the subsequent Roswell/MJ media bandwagon, and not
investigated. But its value is that it could help in determining the authenticity of the MJ-12 document,
which could then authenticate what has since the late eighties become strangely all-important: the Roswell
incident. Anyway, if it is proven that a “crashed UFO” was recovered from El Indio/Guerrero, who needs
Roswell anyway?]
Tom Dulli and Dennis Stacy investigated this case.
For our amusement, Stacy showed us slides of previous Mexico/UFO links. We saw the famous “Tomato
Man” photo, which had allegedly been raken at a UFO crash in Mexico. The giveaway was, however, the
pair of American pilot’s aviator glasses in the wreckage. The head damage had been caused by extremely
hot lead. We alos so the cover of an issue of “Astounding Science Fiction” magazine from September
1958, which had a strong Mexican motif.
El Indio/Guerrero. This area is on the Tex-Mex border. Eagle Pass is the nearest bridge over the Rio
Grande. El Indio is eighteen miles south of it. El Indio is made up of about twenty families, and Guerrero
is more populated. El Indio is in Texas. Guerrero is in Mexico.
Literature on El Indio/Guerrero:
1. History book Isaacson/Thomas (Simon & Schuster, 1986). A book
about six Truman administration members. The book was called WISEMEN. On the sixth of December
1950 Truman “thought his nightmare had come true.” Truman’s “nightmare” was, we are told World War
Three. There was a national emergency, as it was thought that Russian planes were over Alaska. But the
radar blips were not of bombers but geese.
2. Truman’s memoirs refer to the incident as a “misidentified friendly flight.”
3. The Freedom of Information Act. An FBI letter of December the third, 1950 from
Virginia said that “data should not be disseminated “ about Air Intelligence (CIC, i.e.
counter-intelligence) were on high alert re flying saucers.
4. Another letter, dated the sixth of December 1950 and addressed to Truman, said that at
10.30 there had been an air alert - unidentified aircraft over the north-east area of the States.
There had been no reason to think that they were considered friendly. The incident was over
Maine. The letter states it was a misidentifed friendly flight.
1986: The MJ-12 document had to have been written by someone who knew all of the above. The
information had been known to UFOlogists and available since 1984.
The town of El Indio had been bought in 1938 by a Mr Coughman. He is dead. His wife is dead. the
postmistress, who moved there in 1947, is alive and has no recollection of anything unusual.
In Guerrero, Stacy and Dulli met a man in his eighties called Resindo Flores. Flores corroborated the
entire 1950 story. A ball of fire crashed on a ranch. The military came from Eagle Pass. Roads were
sealed off. An object was taken away in a truck. Flores said that the events were common knowledge but
no-one else corroborated his story. Stacy & Dulli found the name of the ranch where the incident allegedly
happened. In November 1990 they visited the ranch. They got no corroboration. In their September 1994
visit for OMNI, they learnt that Flores had died. They got on the ranch again. They had heard from locals
about a hole large enough to have swallowed a tractor [They never asked locals leading questions. They
asked them if anything unusual had happened in the area years ago]. They had not found the hole in 1990
and they found it in 1994. The metal detector was negative. The hole appeared to be a natural sinkhole.
This was cactus area, goat and cattle country... tough terrain to just go looking for holes in the Earth.
The local media also could not help. They knew nothing about the subject. A flood in the mid-50’s
destroyed most of the newspaper records. Any residents who had lived there since 1945 knew nothing. A
historian in Austin called Ragsdale wrote WINGS OVER MEXICO about two USAF men - Harry Hewett
and B. Henderson, who were killed in a crash seven miles from Guerrero in 1944 and it had been covered
up (because it was an international incident - Mexico had been neutral during World War Two). The
official records on this have not been released yet. Ragsdale said it was a gunnery school accident (i.e.
“friendly fire”). Had there been co-operation between the Mexican and American military authorities to
retrieve the wreckage and bodies? Flores had been in his eighties when Stacy & Dulli spoke with him.
Had he been mixed up between 1944 and 1950?
El Indio/Guerrero cannot corroborate MJ-12, therefore MJ-12 cannot corroborate Roswell.
Why would there be a UFO cover-up anyway? Because of the thirtieth of October 1938 - the Orson Welles
panic? The nuclear panic effect in the 1940’s? Governments just don’t like to admit mistakes?
A policy that became maintained?
The 1944 crash itself was not corroborated in Guerrero, from questions to locals on military presence in
the town or of anything unusual happening.
The information on the sixth of December 1950 UFO alert is recorded in ordinary historical work.
Therefore suspicions on MJ-12 go to a UFOlogist who knew about how government files were done.
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